After having owned an iPhone and now owning a Droid, I'd have to say no to the iphone having the best user interface. If for nothing else than the beautiful shade.
I purchased a set of H/K soundsticks, and I'm sure they sound way way better than this setup for not much more (I paid just $20 more than this). Apple's site lists them for $169, but they can be had new for a great deal cheaper if you shop around.
This thread is going to become a total flame fest. Oh well. I have to say. You shouldn't count jailbreaking as a feature. You should weigh the merits out of the box. As far as the iPhone, you shouldn't have to jailbreak or hack a phone to gain functionality.
Everyone has their needs but I have to say, after my real world usage, it's, at the very least, a dead heat between the Droid and the iPhone.
After 3 weeks with the Droid I don't miss my iPhone AT ALL. My only plan for my iPhone is to unlock it and use a prepaid sim when I travel overseas (I'm pretty sure that's possible, if not I'm not too worried).
WTF? ... a jailbroken iPhone on Tmo? Oh well. TMo coverage is trash anyway.
@DustyButt™: I have a MT3G on Tmobile, and have no problems with coverage in the Chicago area, but I take it you're referring to nationwide coverage. I guess that's true. The fact that I got my phone, which is useable, but not the best, for $40 when I wasn't even eligible for an upgrade softens the blow a bit.
Honestly the CLIQ seems almost highway robbery at $100, compared with all the other Android phones out there. The more I see of the CLIQ, the less I like it. For myself, I can't stant the iPhone and I'd call an unlocked iPhone the best on T-Mo, if the CLIQ is its competition. The fact that it has 3G powers doesn't overshoot what the iPhone can do. Caveat: if the CLIQ is running Android 1.6, and thus qualifies for the new Maps app, then...maybe.
Correct me if I am wrong, but didn't Jerry also have a PB Duo, as well? I seem to remember him having three macs, not just the one which you also happen to own, through the run of the show.
Considering that my brother have a music studio and does multitrack recording, an iMac would be impossible to use, cause I just can't put an multitrack sound board on it. Unless if is USB (of firewire).
It's the same with any electronics hacking, you should only do it if you know what you're doing. Too many people get their portable electronics hacked by outside sources or more tech savvy friends or family. They generally just don't know how to maintain it and as such bear the risk if it all goes pear shaped. Especially those who buy prehacked or pay other people to hack their junk for piracy purposes.
But yeah it's pretty dumb stuff it's why anything I hack, I do myself. I put CFW on my PSP for homebrew and I'll be jailbreaking my iPod Touch when it arrives as well.
Still if we didn't have these people we wouldn't be able to laugh at them when they somehow manage to patch to official firmware and come crying when their pirated games don't work any more.
I'd never touch an iMac anyway. The only Mac I could be tempted into ever buying is a Macbook. I couldn't stand to be without a desktop I couldn't open up, upgrade, or customize myself. With a laptop though it's not really limited to Macs in that respect.
Last I checked all you can change is the RAM and the HDD, hardly "all those things". Hell if you have an iMac you can't even change your monitor because the damn thing is integrated.
Macs still offer incredibly poor hardware variety and upgrade options compared to a desktop PC.
@Odin: "You can't even change your monitor." No, you can't change the monitor on an iMac, just as you can't do this on a notebook. Congratulations on highlighting one of the defining features of an all-in-one computer as a Mac flaw. That might be the weakest argument against the iMac I have ever heard.
The rest is correct, however. I agree that for people who want to upgrade their computers Macs in generally are not for them, but really if you are buying a Mac then why do you need to upgrade? The base hardware will do just fine browsing the web, word processing, emailing, photoshopping, etc. If you want to change your graphics card for games, then why are you buying a Mac in the first place?
That may as well be the weakest counter argument I have ever heard. I've got a little piece of information you might not have heard before. It may be shocking I know but bear with me.
Desktop =/= Notebook
Apple are the only (if not the only, then one of very few) hardware manufacturers that produce an all-in-one computer as a desktop still. So yes, it's still a flaw specific to the iMac. Built in screens are a defining feature of portable computing because such integration offers portability. With the iMac it just offers a minor space reduction. Congratulations on trying to compare two different kettles of fish.
@Odin: Please save your wrath for Ragnarok. As I said, I agree completely with all your arguments save that one small sentence about the build-in monitor being an iMac flaw. Don't worry, your tidbit of information was neither new nor shocking. A desktop is not an notebook. Well said! However, the integration of the iMac does make for a small footprint and few wires (one, to own the truth). Also, many manufacturers make all-in-ones: HP, Sony, MSI, Dell etc.
That said, I must take argument with your claim that I was comparing "two different kettles of fish". Upon review, I find nowhere in my comment where I drew any comparisons. All I said was the iMac is an all-in-one and thus has the monitor built-in.
Now let us bury any bad blood bought with misunderstanding. C'mon, you know you have the coolest name on the entire forums! :)
They're still quite uncommon and to be fair most of them tout touch screens which I'd consider to be fair game for computer integration (could still probably do it without though) whereas the iMac is just a regular monitor bolted to a computer.
@Odin: Everything else about the iMac aside (I like what they are as it's great for consumers, but not me) have you ever actually used a touchscreen desktop for an extended period of time? 30 minutes even and it gets uncomfortable. It's an usual position mainly.
If it were Minority report style it would be a bit different, but touch screen desktops are still a novelty and obviously aren't as successful as touchpads.
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Everyone has their needs but I have to say, after my real world usage, it's, at the very least, a dead heat between the Droid and the iPhone.
After 3 weeks with the Droid I don't miss my iPhone AT ALL. My only plan for my iPhone is to unlock it and use a prepaid sim when I travel overseas (I'm pretty sure that's possible, if not I'm not too worried).
WTF? ... a jailbroken iPhone on Tmo? Oh well. TMo coverage is trash anyway.
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Yes, Tmo national coverage is really bad for those who travel regionally.
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You really need an editor. The best smartphone on AT&T is a Jailbroken iPhone.
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Also: Droid for $150? Surprising and pleasing.
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I'm pretty sure the Samsung M520 is the best phone you can get on sprint.
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@bornonbord: Time codes, please? But I believe that was the Duo Dock.
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Season 8 is at :03 for the performa. But, you're right, it could be the duodock.
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But yeah it's pretty dumb stuff it's why anything I hack, I do myself. I put CFW on my PSP for homebrew and I'll be jailbreaking my iPod Touch when it arrives as well.
Still if we didn't have these people we wouldn't be able to laugh at them when they somehow manage to patch to official firmware and come crying when their pirated games don't work any more.
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Who gave this man a star?
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Last I checked all you can change is the RAM and the HDD, hardly "all those things". Hell if you have an iMac you can't even change your monitor because the damn thing is integrated.
Macs still offer incredibly poor hardware variety and upgrade options compared to a desktop PC.
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The rest is correct, however. I agree that for people who want to upgrade their computers Macs in generally are not for them, but really if you are buying a Mac then why do you need to upgrade? The base hardware will do just fine browsing the web, word processing, emailing, photoshopping, etc. If you want to change your graphics card for games, then why are you buying a Mac in the first place?
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Also do you get any support from Apple on faulty parts if you crack open the box? Or does that void everything?
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That may as well be the weakest counter argument I have ever heard. I've got a little piece of information you might not have heard before. It may be shocking I know but bear with me.
Desktop =/= Notebook
Apple are the only (if not the only, then one of very few) hardware manufacturers that produce an all-in-one computer as a desktop still. So yes, it's still a flaw specific to the iMac. Built in screens are a defining feature of portable computing because such integration offers portability. With the iMac it just offers a minor space reduction. Congratulations on trying to compare two different kettles of fish.
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Depends on what you do in there I think. Certain parts are just off limits from what I recall though.
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Um.. what?
Dell Studio One
Dell XPS One
HP Pavilion All-in-One
HP TouchSmart
Lenovo C series
I'm not a fan of the all-in-one computers, but just about everyone makes them!
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That said, I must take argument with your claim that I was comparing "two different kettles of fish". Upon review, I find nowhere in my comment where I drew any comparisons. All I said was the iMac is an all-in-one and thus has the monitor built-in.
Now let us bury any bad blood bought with misunderstanding. C'mon, you know you have the coolest name on the entire forums! :)
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They're still quite uncommon and to be fair most of them tout touch screens which I'd consider to be fair game for computer integration (could still probably do it without though) whereas the iMac is just a regular monitor bolted to a computer.
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If it were Minority report style it would be a bit different, but touch screen desktops are still a novelty and obviously aren't as successful as touchpads.